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Marriage Equality Postal Survey

ElleBelleElleBelle Posts: 410 Community Manager
What do you guys think about marriage equality and the postal "plebiscite" that's happening soon?

Also, if you're over 18 have you checked that you're enrolled and that your address is up to date? You only have until August 24 to check, and it can be done here.
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  • MintMilanoMintMilano Posts: 181 Mod Squad
    It's a shame it has to be done with a big expensive postal vote when that money could be better spent, in my opinion, but I'm hoping it results in marriage equality soon! I've been doing a bit of campaigning in my local area and encouraging people to check their enrolments and vote yes for equality.
  • teatea Posts: 267 Mod Squad
    It's certainly disappointing that our government hasn't been able to make a decision about such an important aspect of people's lives. I agree with @MintMilano that the money could be better spent. I guess the positive side to the whole issue is being able to see so many loving, caring individuals doing their best to advocate for positive change. It's nice seeing communities coming together and showing support for those who might not have access to that. <3
  • CloakOfAshCloakOfAsh Posts: 319 Rock Star
    It's already starting to surface hate campaigns. SO horrible for those affected, why can't the elected leaders whose job it is to make 'tough' choices just do the right thing from the get go!
  • MsBlueStreakMsBlueStreak Posts: 475 Rock Star
    AND..... the hate side of this campaign has made international news, specifically the New York Times. I'm so proud right now. Yep, now we have the international reputation of not only being racist, but homophobic. Yippee!

    Needless to say (I hope), I'm voting (because failing to vote just hands the no vote Brexit levels of power), I'm voting YES! and Ima pick a fight with anyone who wants to try to convince me otherwise.
  • peachypeachy Posts: 183 Mod Squad
    So many mixed feelings about this.

    I'm upset that when we get the results, I'll know the exact proportion of Australians who wouldn't want my girlfriend and I to get married. It can be nerve wracking enough just walking and holding hands around areas you know aren't 100% LGBTQI friendly. I don't want stats that can confirm this worry and keep me from being comfortable in public! I also don't want to feel me holding hands with my partner is a political act in the lead up to the vote. That's not something my straight friends have to worry about.

    But I am so excited that more young people are on the electoral roll as a result of this survey. I'm hoping that will translate to more youth-friendly policies from all parties - they won't be able to risk losing the youth vote at the next election!
  • CloakOfAshCloakOfAsh Posts: 319 Rock Star
    @peachy I can't imagine how stressful this must be for the LGBTQI community. Just know that polls aren't everything and numbers can say a lot of things and be skewed myriad different ways so don't take it as gospel. You do you!
  • NickiPowerNickiPower Posts: 423 Rock Star
    Also remember that adding glitter to your envelope with void your vote! Apparently they need to destroy it because of the "unknown" substances. 

    I for the first time ever, had one of those FB banners reminding everyone to enrol (and vote yes) because I feel so strongly about this. It should be a simple fix without going to a vote BUT at least we can drown out the hate with LOVE!!  <3 <3 <3
  • DeftRatDeftRat Posts: 84 Mod Squad
    I've never really considered marriage something that I want to do and haven't seen it as important to me and my partner as I figured I had the rights I needed in a de facto relationship. I have actually realised (after watching Magda Szubanksi's impassioned speech on The Project) that I do not have the same rights as heterosexual couples. I am not considered next of kin for my partner and he is not for me either. In a de facto relationship, if we break up I can legally ask for half of everything thing of his but I cannot be there anything serious when it comes to medical procedures as I am not considered "family". Puts a few things into perspective, but considering that I don't have these rights I am more for same-sex marriage
  • KitKit Posts: 403 Rock Star
    So who has the low down on what happens after the vote? Like what are the actual implications for marriage equality in Australia?
  • CookieMonsterCookieMonster Posts: 104 Mod Squad
    Waste of money! just let them get married already!!!! 

    Lets all be honest in 50 or so years they are going to be reading the history of marriage and thinking what idiots just like we do when looking at black and white segregation ...not to mention the concept of marriage is such a new thing anyway so I don't understand the problem at all...
  • DeftRatDeftRat Posts: 84 Mod Squad
    @Kit the vote is not binding for the government, it is literally an opinion survey. From what I gather Malcolm Turnbull has said that if there is a majority of Yes votes that a conscience vote will be held for the Liberal Party, but whether or not that happens is yet to be seen (someone please correct me if I'm wrong). And if there is a resounding No then I suppose we just ahve to wait until the next federal election where I'm Labour will win power easily and will pass marriage equality like Malcom Turnbull should have already
  • MsBlueStreakMsBlueStreak Posts: 475 Rock Star
    @DeftRat you've understood most of the process following the postal vote. The parliamentary vote has been promised to take place before the end of the year... though I'm not entirely sure how the legislation can be implemented so quickly

    (I don't just want the ability to say "I do" to be implemented, I want everything that revolves around the legal definition of marriage to be fixed to, ala the UK)
  • KitKit Posts: 403 Rock Star
    Right ok. So are you saying that it's the opinion survey before the personal opinion vote by the people who can actually do something about it? And neither really has an effect on the other – or the final outcome?
  • mak_trouble891mak_trouble891 Posts: 563 Mod Squad
    I worry about the outcome of a 'NO' outcome and the massive step backward and kick in the guts this will have on the LGBTQI community. I worry about how this will impact my sister and her 'wife' - they are married in mine and my families eyes but not the laws. I worry about my dad and his partner and their future. 
  • MsBlueStreakMsBlueStreak Posts: 475 Rock Star
    @mak_trouble891 I worry what will happen if the "No" vote gets up...

    But I have faith in the sheer number of people who registered to vote just for this (unlike with Brexit, the younger generations won't be staying home in protest only to let the Boomers xenophobia win).
  • KitKit Posts: 403 Rock Star
    Absolutely agree @mak_trouble891. It seems so harmful to bring it all up for others to discuss and when there's no guarantee that a vote will do anything anyway... There's a lot of disillusioned people that will probably need support.
    Starting the hugs off!

    <3 H U G ! <3


  • DeftRatDeftRat Posts: 84 Mod Squad
    Thanks for this @ElleBelle. This is really important. I haven't seen a lot of the against argument, but I am not a Facebook user so I think that has had a lot to do with it, but I am sure that a lot of other people are experiencing the against rhetoric very close and very loud that need something like this.
  • teatea Posts: 267 Mod Squad
    Looks like the postal vote is 100% going ahead! On a positive note, I've seen a ton of big companies (such as Lush) being involved in positive yes campaigning for the plebiscite, which is reassuring considering the coverage they have nationally (and maybe also another good reason to shop at places like Lush)!  ;)
  • CloakOfAshCloakOfAsh Posts: 319 Rock Star
    I think we will see a great strong YES campaign including huge corps. That is a great asset too @ElleBelle
  • KitKit Posts: 403 Rock Star
    Love it. Thanks for sharing @ElleBelle
  • MintMilanoMintMilano Posts: 181 Mod Squad
    Did anyone in Sydney or Brisbane go to the YES rallies yesterday? I went to the one in Sydney and they had to shut down Town Hall station because there was so many people there! It was great to see such a fantastic turn out and so much support  :)
  • CloakOfAshCloakOfAsh Posts: 319 Rock Star
    @MintMilano I am sick so I stayed home in bed but I had a lot of friends who did and it looked really powerful. My favourite was a placard that read "if a straight white male is protesting then things must be bad". I thought that was brilliant!
  • MintMilanoMintMilano Posts: 181 Mod Squad
    @CloakOfAsh sorry to hear you're sick. That placard is hilarious though, I wish I'd seen it! there were a lot of good ones around. There were some funny ones featuring Bert and Ernie from Sesame Street that I loved. 
  • HoneyPotHoneyPot Posts: 123 Mod Squad
    I went yesterday as well @MintMilano and there were so many good signs and so many cute dogs and SO MANY humans! Was so awesome to see! I think my fav sign was carried by an older mum that said "Only I get to choose who my son can marry!" Was so cute :p :p
  • ElleBelleElleBelle Posts: 410 Community Manager
    There were some politician "Burn Book" posters which tickled my fancy!
  • mak_trouble891mak_trouble891 Posts: 563 Mod Squad
    i wanted to go but wasn't able to. 
    Thanks for the hug @Kit you're right, so many are gunna need them ❤️ 
  • peachypeachy Posts: 183 Mod Squad
    @MintMilano I was there too! The atmosphere was so positive. It was so sweet seeing so many supportive heterosexual couples with their kids there too. @ElleBelle omg I loved those burn book posters so much ahaha 
  • MsBlueStreakMsBlueStreak Posts: 475 Rock Star
    I didn't make the rallies (things to do and stuff) :( :(

    Quick piece of advice to all.... don't post photos of your ballot that include the barcode.

  • peachypeachy Posts: 183 Mod Squad
    Has everyone received their survey in the mail yet? I haven't yet - getting a bit worried! :( 
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